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(Message started by: EJ20NA on May 17th, 2004, 3:57pm)
Title: EJ20NA
Post by EJ20NA on May 17th, 2004, 3:57pm
Does anyone know the specifications of the EJ20 quad cam non turbo engines??? power output etc.
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by 4X4MUDRAT on May 17th, 2004, 4:14pm
112KW
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by SilverLibertyGX on May 17th, 2004, 4:39pm
nah, they aren't that much are they?

I thought the 20 was 92kw and the 25 was 112kw?
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Post by 4X4MUDRAT on May 17th, 2004, 5:45pm
I'm sure the SOHC EJ20 is 92KW but the DOHC (the one with the coils ontop of the heads) was 112. The '25 is closer to 130 is it not?
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by brumbyrunner on May 17th, 2004, 11:05pm
Dream on. ;D
EJ25 in the Outback is 115kw.
EJ22 varies between 94 and 97kw.
First GT Forester was only 125kw (EJ20T).
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by 4X4MUDRAT on May 18th, 2004, 8:23am
Official Australian figures are as such:

EJ25 (Liberty): 121KW
EJ20 SOHC (Impreza RX): 92KW (look at that!!)

I can't find official figures on the new DOHC VVT EJ20, however one European site claimed it's output at 140KW! My initial offer of 112KW still stands.


Quote:
The EJ20 boxer engine is another focus of surgery. From spec, it seems unchanged. Still 1994cc, same big bore short stroke combustion chambers, single-cam 16-valve for the cheapest version (which pumps out 140hp), same twin-cam 16-valve for the next up version.... now you suddenly discover this engine get more horsepower: 190hp versus the previous 155hp. What’s going on? oh, it gets AVCS variable valve timing at the intake valves, smoother intake and exhaust manifolds, hollow camshafts, electronic throttle.... but you also notice the new boxer engine sounds different - gone is the traditional deep boxer bubble, replaced by a higher pitch and quieter exhaust note. What’s the matter?


http://autozine.kyul.net/html/Subaru2.htm
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by SUBYDAZZ on May 27th, 2004, 2:41pm
I call 92-94 kW for the NA EJ20 SOHC depending on year model GEN3 Liberty for example had 92kW @ 5600rpm, 184Nm @ 3600rpm.

GEN4 Liberty NA SOHC 2.0i (EJ20) is 101kW @ 5600rpm, 187nNm @ 4400rpm.

Quad cam? Which markets and cars had the quad cam NA EJ20? I haven't seen any DOHC non turbo motors here in a 2L.

Current model 2.5 (SOHC) is now 121kW, older models were 112kW - 115kW.
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by 4X4MUDRAT on May 27th, 2004, 6:28pm
Perhaps you should re-read my post!
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by SilverLibertyGX on May 27th, 2004, 7:49pm

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Current model 2.5 (SOHC) is now 121kW, older models were 112kW - 115kW


I am with Dazz on that one...
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by 4X4MUDRAT on May 27th, 2004, 9:47pm
That's what I said!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by brumbyrunner on May 27th, 2004, 10:45pm
Dazz those EJ20 quad cams are at all the importers if you need a cheep engine.
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Post by byb555 on May 28th, 2004, 6:26am
I think I am with Muddy on this. The EJ20NA motors have better head design along with a better inlet manifold. Going on the book of vehicles and engine capacity/power at Alljap I do recall the figure was over 110kw for that motor. I will find out exactly when I am down there over the next few days.
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by pkdavis300 on Jun 3rd, 2004, 11:22am
Gentlemen,
There are a few JDM importers in the USA that offer both the EJ22 and NA EJ20 SOHC.  Price is about $850 USD for the EJ22 and $450 USD for the EJ20.  I am told the blocks are identical, so putting the NA EJ20 in my former EJ22 Legacy/Liberty is a direct replacement, using my intake and exhaust.   $400 USD seems like a lot for a mere 0.2 liter gain and maybe 8-10% power???   Based on the replies here, sounds like a great choice.  Comments?  thanks, PK.
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by mAJJJORD on Jun 3rd, 2004, 7:50pm
might as well jump in and back up some ppls claims ;) ,  subaru themselves claimed the very original EJ20 quad cam NA in the series 1 liberty  (JAPAN MODEL)   was 100kw  (same as the local sohc EJ22) .   so it would be at least that probably more for later models.

amen
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by JZK25 on Jun 8th, 2004, 7:06pm
You haven't tasted dissapointment till you've driven a series 1 or 2 EJ20 4 cam NA. An EJ22 is a much better engine.
In Summary :  Turbo lag that never goes away. :P
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by SUBYDAZZ on Jun 9th, 2004, 10:14am
Hang on, I just went back and read Muddy's post (The bit at the bottom was a quote from somewhere else other than this thread, which I overlooked initially). Checked out the link too. I assume that there are two versiions of the NA EJ20 in the current GEN4 Liberty/Legacys, as it refers to the cheaper engine. It also calls the model the 2.0R, and we get the 2.0i. Might talk to Subaru about whether we will be getting the 2.0R.

So I still take it that we don't get this DOHC VVT EJ20 here in any models? Did we ever? I have never come across it. Was there a DOHC quad cam  NA EJ20without VVT?

It appears we might be talking about three different engines in this thread. It was directed at the EJ20NA DOHC, not SOHC.


quote JZK25: "You haven't tasted dissapointment till you've driven a series 1 or 2 EJ20 4 cam NA" - series 1 as in the motor, or Liberty/Legacy? Australia or US? SOHC right?


quote BYB555: "The EJ20NA motors have better head design along with a better inlet manifold. Going on the book of vehicles and engine capacity/power at Alljap I do recall the figure was over 110kw for that motor" - better head design and intlet manifold than what? Are you referring to the local Aus market NA EJ20, or something from overseas? DOHC? VVT? Which model? The EJ20 (NA) in Aus imported vehicles have always been under 100kW.

quote brumbyrunner: Dazz those EJ20 quad cams are at all the importers if you need a cheep engine - As in cheap or expensive?  :-/ What year models are they from? VVT or not?
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by brumbyrunner on Jun 13th, 2004, 1:05pm
All the cheap EJ20DOHC that I have seen or read about have been non-vvti. Have not heard of any other in Oz.
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by JZK25 on Jun 14th, 2004, 8:17am
I'm talking Jap spec EJ20 4(quad) cam. As in RS engine with no turbo. There are some cars in Australia as dodgy or personal imports(VZ Type R's). There are probably a dozen EJ20 variants from 89 right thru to current with various head designs. The VCT 2.0 was in japan from the mid 90's and was no doubt an improvement over the early versions.
Not counting 2.0 turbos and RX 2.5 Aus only got 2.2 engines until 98 then 2.0's with the new head design(like foresters) after that.
Title: Re: EJ20NA
Post by snatchme on Jun 14th, 2004, 8:50am
Hehe. I would put my ten cents worth in. Reading these posts has been entertaining enough without stirring the pot.


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